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Title: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Peter Motyka on 2003-04-01T09:01:58-06:00 (Tuesday)
Redhat 9.0 is out but does not seem to be on Redhat's FTP or mirror sites.  It is however, being distributed over the BitTorrent P2P network.  Slashdot has alot of great things to say about this P2P protocol...  So far I am getting pretty poor speeds from it.  Of couse, my upload rate is much higher than my download rate.  When will the P2P community ever learn.   In order to download, you must upload.  Leeches ruin P2P for everyone.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/31/1256236&mode=thread
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: William Grim on 2003-04-01T10:35:55-06:00 (Tuesday)
Yeah, for the first week you can only get it off their RHN (supposedly).
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: bill corcoran on 2003-04-01T10:54:14-06:00 (Tuesday)
Yeah, well, you can get the Mandrake 9.1 ISOs now =) .  In fact, I already have them and anxiously await the upgrade.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Peter Motyka on 2003-04-01T11:15:05-06:00 (Tuesday)
Well, I am downloading the RH9 ISOs now from BitTorrent... but they are coming down at 10k/s.  18 hours 20 min 32 sec to go :(  Perhaps I will upload them to solar when I am done for a CAOS mirror.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: DaleDoe on 2003-04-01T14:18:21-06:00 (Tuesday)
Yea, I think I'll wait before I download redhat 9.  I'm still waiting for traffic to die down so I can download Slackware 9 in less than 8 hours.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: DaleDoe on 2003-04-02T14:36:19-06:00 (Wednesday)
Yea, I've got redhat 9 disks 1-3 (disk 1 is still downloading) and slackware 9 from www.ausgamers.com.  Except for redhat disk 1, I've been seeing speeds around 50 kb/s.  

I have them shared on my temp directory on \\cs66\temp and have burned copies for myself, but I'm looking to see if anyone on campus wants to put them up somewhere for ftp, maybe on solar, so y'all don't have to spend hours downloading.  The isos will be on my temp till I log off about 8 or 9 this evening.  Hopefully someone will find something more permanent by then.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Peter Motyka on 2003-04-02T15:08:39-06:00 (Wednesday)
Sounds like you guys have a local copy already.  I will kill my upload to solar.  I was getting 20k/s and was only done with 30% of disk 1.  Dale, make sure to test the md5 sum of the images.  I heard there are quite a few corrupt ISOs going around.

400c7fb292c73b793fb722532abd09ad  shrike-i386-disc1.iso
6b8ba42f56b397d536826c78c9679c0a  shrike-i386-disc2.iso
af38ac4316ba20df2dec5f990913396d  shrike-i386-disc3.iso

Peter
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: DaleDoe on 2003-04-02T15:36:40-06:00 (Wednesday)
Whell, traffic is increasing, so my download of disk 1 is slowing down. I'm up to 60%, but I'm only getting 20k/s now.  As far as having a local copy, I just have them on my temp folder on one of the CS department computers.  That's gone when I log off.  Greg said he'd try to find a place for it tomorrow on solar, so I'm going to lock cs66 and leave myself logged in with temp shared until tomorrow.

How do I check the md5 sums?  I burned the ones I have to CDs already, but I don't know if what it burned is corrupt or not.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Peter Motyka on 2003-04-02T15:39:24-06:00 (Wednesday)
To check the md5sum, use the cygwin install on the lab computer (hopefully that is still on the image).  When you have a cygwin bash shell in the current directory of the ISOs just issue the command "md5sum *.iso" and make sure the output matches the ones I posted.  This will verfiy that a few bits didnt get lost in the packet storm while downloading.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: DaleDoe on 2003-04-02T16:08:54-06:00 (Wednesday)
Sweet, the ones I have so far check out.  Thanks.  I'm still waiting on disk 1 to finish downloading--only 3 hours remaining.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Victor Cardona on 2003-04-02T17:39:41-06:00 (Wednesday)
Yeah well Red Hat sucks anyway. For everyone else there is SuSE :-)

Victor
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Peter Motyka on 2003-04-02T18:44:35-06:00 (Wednesday)
Love it or Leave it Victor!  USA made Linux rules!  German communist Linux stinks! ;)
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: William Grim on 2003-04-04T04:46:05-06:00 (Friday)
You hippy communist, mwahahahahaha!  Just joking.

Anyway, thanks to DaleDoe, we now have Red Hat 9.0 and Slackware 9.0 (you're damn right) for download at ftp://solar.cs.siue.edu/

All you pansies stop poking Red Hat and try a real programmer's/admin's distro: Slackware.  It make you barbarian also smell like gym.  Yeah, I know, I purposely messed up my speech for that.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Peter Motyka on 2003-04-04T06:12:32-06:00 (Friday)
Did you really intend to make those ISOs availible via anonymous ftp? Last time I did that Solars's ftpd got hammered.by lots of off campus downloads.  Who knows how people found out we has ISOs for *linux, but they found it and abused it.  Perhaps putting them someone that requires people to login will prevent the leeches from clogging the campus internet pipes.

Peter
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: William Grim on 2003-04-04T06:33:36-06:00 (Friday)
Yeah, I haven't had any problems doing it lately.

I've had the other ISOs anonymously shared for quite some time now.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: DaleDoe on 2003-04-04T10:52:08-06:00 (Friday)
Yea, Grim's right.  Slackware's a real programmer's OS.  It's the anti-Windows.  You know how Windows always tries to do stuff for ya automatically, even when you don't want it to.  Whell, Slackware does nothing automatically.  It isn't until you can configure every one of your drivers by hand that you're a true linux guy.8-)

I'm just trying redhat because so many of the servers around here have redhat, so I want to see what it's like.  But once I get pretty well acquainted with redhat, I'm going back to my Slackware.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Stiffler on 2003-04-04T11:56:02-06:00 (Friday)
Peter, there are ftp scanners out there. They scan every IP for a FTP server. When they find one, the IP is added to a list, then checked every so often to update the file list. THen users just do a search on the that scanner to find what they want. It's much the same way google works.

Jon
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Guest on 2003-04-05T13:26:18-06:00 (Saturday)
If you need the Redhat 9 ISO images - you can download them at this ftp server, 218.2.120.10
The server is in China - so take that in to account - speeds may vary.
Have fun!
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Ryan Lintker on 2003-04-07T22:26:12-05:00 (Monday)
Has anyone noticed the incredible number of views on this thread?  I got up this morning and it was over 1500.  Is that inaccurate or do we have some outside folks checking out this particular thread for some reason?  If it is accurate, it definately sets a new record for this site.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: DaleDoe on 2003-04-08T08:55:11-05:00 (Tuesday)
I finally found time to put redhat 9 on my system, though I upgraded my slackware a few days ago.  I just wanted to say how easy redhat was to install.  It configured everything for me.  Even X windows.  It even managed to detect my monitor type.:-D

The slackware upgrade was relatively painless, too.  I only had to reconfigure my display and video card.  It managed to reuse all of the other config files except xf86.conf (I think that was the name).  I could've avoided the trouble if I had thought to backup my X windows config files beforehand.:roll:
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Peter Motyka on 2003-04-08T10:11:02-05:00 (Tuesday)
I have been running RH9 here at work as my JSP/Servlet server and I have already gotten in a fight with it.  The confrontation happened when trying to migrate my bugzilla installation from another box.  I could not get the dependent perl libs to install via CPAN so I scrounged for RPMs.  I found all the RPMs but some would not install because of dependency failures, even though the required software was installed via source.  I used the --nodeps flags and it worked for a few of them.  After trying to forcefully install DBI-MySQL I ended up with a corrupt RPM database and had to rebuild it.  I recall this type of flaky package management in RH 6.x.  Why can't RH implement dependable package management like FreeBSD or Debian.  I am quickly starting to despise RPM.  Isn't it odd that Gentoo selected RPM for its portage package format (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/01/0234215&mode=thread&tid=106)?

Peter
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Stiffler on 2003-04-08T14:53:47-05:00 (Tuesday)
Peter, that was an April Fool's Day joke as explained in this edition of the Gentoo Weekly News Letter (http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030401-newsletter.xml).

Jon
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Ryan Lintker on 2003-04-09T11:01:24-05:00 (Wednesday)
Well, I'm sitting in the tutor lab this morning, reading some of the posts in this 2100+ view thread, and I see the post that says go ftp solar to download iso's.  I click the link and what happens?  There are already the maximum number of users on the server, please come again.  Is this really all CAOS members and their families, or should we be saying "Houston, we have a problem here."  I am not totally up to date on the bandwidth situation here at SIUE, but it doesn't seem like a good thing if a school server is being abused.  Are there any things on the public ftp server that are needed by students for class?  It would really be a shame if students aren't able to get to materials or programs that they need.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Peter Motyka on 2003-04-09T11:19:10-05:00 (Wednesday)
[root@solar 11:14:41 /root]# ftpwho
inetd FTP connections:
(65%)proftpd:ftp-207.53.234.195:anonymous/getright@:RETR/shared/linux/RedHat9.0/shrike-i386-disc3.iso
(15%)proftpd:ftp-207.53.234.195:anonymous/getright@:RETR/shared/linux/RedHat9.0/shrike-i386-disc3.iso
(88%)proftpd:ftp-host28-2.pool80116.interbusiness.it:anonymous/getright@:RETR/shared/linux/RedHat9.0/shrike-i386-disc3.iso
(47%)proftpd:ftp-207.53.234.195:anonymous/getright@:RETR/shared/linux/RedHat9.0/shrike-i386-disc3.iso
(40%)proftpd:ftp-217-127-31-222.uc.nombres.ttd.es:anonymous/diamondx@terra.es:RETR/shared/linux/RedHat9.0/shrike-i386-disc1.iso
(40%)proftpd:ftp-217-127-31-222.uc.nombres.ttd.es:anonymous/diamondx@terra.es:RETR/shared/linux/RedHat9.0/shrike-i386-disc2.iso
(44%)proftpd:ftp-207.53.234.195:anonymous/getright@:RETR/shared/linux/RedHat9.0/shrike-i386-disc3.iso
(9%)proftpd:ftp-213.154.137.218:anonymous/root@beta:RETR/shared/linux/RedHat9.0/shrike-i386-disc1.iso
(2%)proftpd:ftp-212.97.54.198:anonymous/IEUser@:RETR/shared/linux/RedHat9.0/shrike-i386-disc3.iso
Service class-9users

-- Wow, look at that... not a single SIUE ip address.  Happy to see we are hooking up the people in Spain and Italy with ISOs...  Didn't I warn about this?

Peter
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Peter Motyka on 2003-04-09T11:54:06-05:00 (Wednesday)
BTW, search for "redhat 9 iso" on google.com
CAOS is the 5th hit with this thread.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=redhat+9+iso

Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Ryan Lintker on 2003-04-09T11:56:24-05:00 (Wednesday)
I tried that search yesterday and it didn't come up.  But today we are #5.  Holy cow!  Maybe tomorrow CAOS will be #1!
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Peter Motyka on 2003-04-09T12:18:05-05:00 (Wednesday)
Want to see something amusing?  Run this command on solar to see the anon ftp attempts over the last few days.

"last -a | grep ^ftp | less"
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: DaleDoe on 2003-04-09T12:26:49-05:00 (Wednesday)
So that's why I've had some trouble off and on ftp-ing from solar/pub/CS514.  No big deal.  I've been transfering by http just as easily as ftp. 8-)
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Chris Swingler on 2003-04-09T12:44:40-05:00 (Wednesday)
Wow, that's an awful lot of people using GetRight.  So far, solar.cs hasn't been linked on FileMirrors.com (GetRight's FTP server database) but since GetRight relays FTP server information from the users to FileMirrors as soon as it finds a good server, it may pop up there sooner or later.

--Beanie
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: William Grim on 2003-04-09T13:13:53-05:00 (Wednesday)
Eh, no big deal, except now you have to use sftp to get the ISOs.  When you sftp to solar, go to /home/shared/linux/; that's where I keep the ISOs.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Kade P. Cole on 2003-04-09T13:59:30-05:00 (Wednesday)
Can you not limit the ftp to just SIUE. That would help a lot. At least for anonymous. Otherwise just use your SOENT login to login and goto /home/ftp/shared/linux and download away!
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: William Grim on 2003-04-09T16:56:15-05:00 (Wednesday)
I never restricted anonymous privileges in the sense that you could only login from certain areas.

As for anonymous gathering of the RH9 ISOs, it was setup like that because I thought we had our ftp server jail people into their home directories.  Obviously, this is not the case and will change soon.

As for all the downloads, there isn't much to say about it.  I was trying to make the directory accessible to all the SIUE students, thinking that users were already jailed in their home directory on FTP.

Get WinSCP Here for using SFTP on windows. (http://solar.cs.siue.edu/winscp220setup.exe)
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: bill corcoran on 2003-04-09T17:38:08-05:00 (Wednesday)
this brings to mind a question i have pondered recently, and have not been able to quickly google a satisfying answer.

what is the difference between SCP and SFTP?  i had the understanding that there was none, but after hearing a few things i'm not so sure.
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Stiffler on 2003-04-09T23:24:34-05:00 (Wednesday)
SCP = Secure Copy Protocol. It is part of the OpenSSH download. SFTP = Secure File Transfer Protocol. Not much different, but on is done purely via ssh.

Jon
Title: Re: Redhat 9 ISOs
Post by: Kade P. Cole on 2003-04-10T13:29:22-05:00 (Thursday)
I know they both use ssh. I also think they are basically the same thing.