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Did Verisign just break the Internet?

Started by R. Andrew Lamonica, 2003-09-27T00:20:07-05:00 (Saturday)

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R. Andrew Lamonica

So the other night I was looking up different websites to see if they were owned.  Instead of using â€Ã...“digâ€Ã, or â€Ã...“whoisâ€Ã, I just pinged the site name.  I figured that if the name resolved to an IP then it was owned by someone.  This seemed a valid assumption, however, it turns out it was not.  

Three of the addresses I tried resolved to 64.94.110.11.  At first I though they were all hosted on the same server, but after five more did the same thing and none of my pings failed to lookup I go suspicious.  I looked up the address and discovered that it was â€Ã...“sitefinder-idn.verisign.com.â€Ã,  Apparently, with little fanfare Verisign (the current holder of the .com and .net root domains) decided to make every address resolve.  This was so weird I could not believe noone had mentioned it in the news.  I looked around and found a story that did mention it, but it just said that this was a new feature of the Internet (the site tries to correct typos.  Try http://www.morcrosoft.com and you will see what I mean.)

Today, I finally saw an article that mentions the downside of this.  

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=528&e=2&u=/ap/20030926/ap_on_hi_te/internet_typosâ€Ã,

I think everyone should read this article and decide if Verisign has broken the Internet or just made it more idiot proof.  I welcome any comments.

R. Andrew Lamonica

What the :censored:?  I cannot say a$$umption.  I think the censorship policy on this system needs some work.

Michael Kennedy

I think they broke it.  I know lots of people are suing them over their actions.  I know my registrar of choice, godaddy.com is also suing them for what they're doing (https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/pressreleases/verisign_suit.asp?isc=&se=%2B&from%5Fapp=&mscssid=2284709) .  I think they're just using their position to drive out the smaller guys.

Oh, and just for the fun of it:  :censored:, :censored:, :censored:, :censored:, :censored:, :censored:.  :lol:
"If it ain't busted, don't fix it" is a very sound principal and remains so despite the fact that I have slavishly ignored it all my life. --Douglas Adams, "Salmon of Doubt"

Aaron Drake

QuoteDid Verisign just brake the Internet?

Why?  Was it going too fast?  (I wasn't even aware that the Internet had brakes.)  ;-)
"Cooda is a whatah?" - Dr. Wu

R. Andrew Lamonica

Good point.  Perhaps I need an Internet Typo Service :-)

I'll fix it.

Aaron Drake

QuoteGood point. Perhaps I need an Internet Typo Service :-)

I'll fix it.

Sorry, just couldn't help myself.  That was an interesting read, though, about Verisign.
"Cooda is a whatah?" - Dr. Wu

Michael Kennedy

I'm becoming pretty fascinated with this now that GoDaddy sued as well.  Here's a link to ICANN's letter to VeriSign.  I kinda hope VeriSign doesn't comply just to see what happens.  :)

http://www.icann.org/correspondence/twomey-to-lewis-03oct03.htm
"If it ain't busted, don't fix it" is a very sound principal and remains so despite the fact that I have slavishly ignored it all my life. --Douglas Adams, "Salmon of Doubt"

William Grim

And, as you wished, VeriSign did ignore ICANN's request.  ICANN told VeriSign to stop what they were doing by Oct. 4 or legal recourse would be selected.

Here goes another lawsuit.
William Grim
IT Associate, Morgan Stanley

Michael Kennedy

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/04/1757203
and
http://news.com.com/2100-1032_3-5086101.html

It looks like Verisign has at least announced "plans" to shut it down.  I don't like Verisign from my past dealings with them, so I was hoping they'd pull an SCO just to cause more people to hate them.  :)

"If it ain't busted, don't fix it" is a very sound principal and remains so despite the fact that I have slavishly ignored it all my life. --Douglas Adams, "Salmon of Doubt"

Chris Swingler

It's down now, but the question is--for how long?


(18:41:04 <~>) chris$ dnsquery gocubbiesgoandthebravessuck.com
Query failed (h_errno = 1) : Unknown host


--Beanie
Christopher Swingler
CAOS Web Administrator

Josh

It doesn't seem to up right now. But that is :censored: messed up. Why can't this fat money loving fat cats leave the internet alone :hammer2: . The internet is a powerfully tool that needs to be kept free. Sounds like Verisign doesn't want to play fare and share.
Josh Cunningham
"I am a hunter of peace..."--Vash, Trigun......

Michael Kennedy

The next thing Verisign needs to do is make sure any "*gocubbiesgo*" searches return an "Unknown host" error.
"If it ain't busted, don't fix it" is a very sound principal and remains so despite the fact that I have slavishly ignored it all my life. --Douglas Adams, "Salmon of Doubt"

Michael Kennedy

Quotefat money loving fat cats leave the internet alone ... Sounds like Verisign doesn't want to play fare and share.

Hello, welcome to America.  You must be new here.  :)
"If it ain't busted, don't fix it" is a very sound principal and remains so despite the fact that I have slavishly ignored it all my life. --Douglas Adams, "Salmon of Doubt"

Chris Swingler

QuoteHello, welcome to America. You must be new here. :)

/me edits mek2600's /etc/hosts file so slashdot.org resolves to 64.94.110.11

No more /. for you.  (Though I obviously spend too much time there =p )

--Beanie
Christopher Swingler
CAOS Web Administrator

Michael Kennedy

Yeah, I know, but I couldn't resist.  Just as long as I don't put "First Post!!!" in any topics I start I think I'm okay, though.
"If it ain't busted, don't fix it" is a very sound principal and remains so despite the fact that I have slavishly ignored it all my life. --Douglas Adams, "Salmon of Doubt"